24/4/26

Ep 31 • The Health Story I Never Fully Shared... Until Now (feat. my 2011 diary entries) • Glandular Fever, the Pill at 14, IBS & Figuring It All Out

A naturopath's real, unfiltered health story — including my diary entries from 2011 that I've never shared publicly until now.

In this episode of Oh My Menses, Karinda shares the health history behind the work she does: born sick, recurring tonsillitis from age three, the pill at 14 for skin problems, glandular fever and tonsillitis at 15, digestive issues she tracked obsessively for years, and a teenage girl beating herself up for not being able to change a body that was doing its absolute best.

This episode covers:

• Why she started tracking food and bowel movements every day as a teenager

• The 2011 diary entry that still hits differently read out loud

• Why "everything looks fine" from a GP is not the same as actually being fine

• The role birth, breastfeeding, antibiotics, and early microbiome disruption play in long-term health

• What changed when she saw a naturopath for the first time at 16

• Why the thing her clients most consistently reflect back — feeling heard — traces directly to her own healing story

• How her life's work is built around offering what she needed and couldn't find as a teenager

• The origins of Harmonised Hormones

This is the most personal episode I've recorded. If you've ever felt confused, frustrated, or dismissed by the healthcare system while trying to understand what's happening in your body... this is the episode.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 — Welcome + why I'm sharing my personal health story today
03:00 — Cycle check-in: cycle day 21, early luteal phase
07:30 — Cycle Tracking Guide + invitation to check in with your own cycle
10:15 — How this episode came together: the 2am writing session
15:10 — Reading begins: "Before I became a naturopath, I was probably a bit like you"
19:00 — Born sick: early microbiome disruption, reflux, and breastfeeding
26:30 — Tonsillitis from age three, antibiotics, primary school years
31:00 — The pill at 14, and the year everything got harder
32:00 — August 2011 diary entry — read out loud
37:00 — Holding space for 15-year-old Karinda
44:30 — May 2012 food diary: what I thought was healthy
54:30 — August 2012: weight loss goals and the wrong kind of motivation
59:00 — What didn't work — and why
01:01:00 — What changed: coming off the pill, the first naturopath at 16
01:04:30 — Why feeling heard is the thing clients reflect back most
01:09:00 — Why Harmonised Hormones exists
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TRANSCRIPT:

[00:00:12] Hello. Hello. Welcome back to another episode of Oh My Menses Karinda's Corner edition, because we are in the car's corner chair. I decided it was easy to film with just bringing the chair forward to where I usually film rather than the hassle of moving the filming equipment to the Karinda's corner. I'm enjoying this new view. Today is going to be

[00:00:44] an expanded share from an email that I sent out today to my email, my email fam my Karinda's Corner Community, and it was a really vulnerable share and one that I actually started writing probably a couple of months [00:01:00] ago, but didn't actually finalize and send out until late last week. Going into some really nitty gritty of my own health story, for a couple of reasons.

[00:01:10] I mean, obviously there's the benefit that I'm sure you can relate to, of how it feels to share something that you feel safe enough to share that's like close to your heart. Um, but sharing it in a way that that does that, that feels safe and like there's a part of you getting acknowledged that may be needed, some acknowledgement.

[00:01:31] So there's that, which I'm sure we can all appreciate. Then there's the aspect of; I don't think I get this misperception a lot, but a lot of the women that I work with, and a lot of the people that follow me on Instagram don't know my history, like don't know the background that I came from and what my health history is like and what sort of things I've experienced on my own health journey, and especially when I'm helping people

[00:01:57] on their own health journeys, [00:02:00] I want you to know, like I've been to some like sucky places as well. And so often when I'm sharing advice or recommendations or hearing you out, it's not just coming from a place of, "yeah, I've been to uni and I've like studied this stuff and I understand why my advice and recommendations are gonna make sense and are gonna work for you in your case."

[00:02:20] But it's also coming from a place of, "yeah, damn. I've actually, I've actually felt that I've actually had a really similar experience. Oh yeah, I know what that kind of circumstance feels like" and Laika making her background appearance this time. I hope you're gonna be okay in here. Bub, you gonna be okay in here?

[00:02:41] Yeah. This is ha, this happens at like the same time of every episode. I need to go back and look at the timestamps of when Laika kind of like gets up from her comfortable position. Yeah, so also sharing from a place of like, yeah, I've experienced some really, really challenging things in my [00:03:00] health and I have had to na navigate a lot of stuff, have had a lot of times where I, I've been so confused and frustrated by my body and I've had to go to appointments and seek help from outside resources, or seek support from other people, other professionals.

[00:03:18] I've had to try things. I've had to track, I've had to experiment. I've had to self inquire, you know, um, in order to understand what my body was demonstrating to me. And I mean, a lot of this is, especially because I was just a teenager and a child, you know, hindsight is bloody 2020. So that's another reason I, I wanna let you guys know that I've, I've gone through some health stuff.

[00:03:41] And so my guidance with you in our one-on-one sessions is often coming from a place of lived experience as well as clinical expertise and specific training. And also the last reason is that, you know, I've gotten through it. I've gotten through a [00:04:00] lot and I think I have some really useful tools that can help other people.

[00:04:05] So I want other people to feel seen and heard and less alone by reading my stories. I want people to understand that as a health professional, I have had health challenges. A health professional doesn't mean you have like perfect health, and it's, it doesn't even mean that I'm currently healthy all the time.

[00:04:21] Right. And from that, let's pivot into a cycle check-in before we dive into the vulnerable watery depths of today's episode. I am cycle day 21 firmly, firmly planted in my lute teal phase. Um, just, yeah, feeling that gear shift. If you listened to my recent episode about setting your sails with the wind.

[00:04:50] Um, and I've also got another episode that's about to come out using a car analogy, uh, with the different cycle phases.

[00:04:57] So using the car analogy, [00:05:00] especially. I've crossed the threshold of ovulation, so I'm not just like accelerating down the freeway pedal to the metal. I'm definitely, I don't think I'm pumping the brakes yet, but I'm definitely slowing down and like lifting my foot off the accelerator.

[00:05:14] I'm definitely feeling my energy change and also there's like flus going around at the moment. I've been around a lot of people that get sick. I'm not scared of getting sick 'cause I know it's only like a reflection of my own immune system. Um, and I kind of like getting occasionally sick to test and strengthen my immune system.

[00:05:33] That might sound a little bit weird to some people and it's also not a guarantee that you'll get sick, just because you're exposed to a sick person. Uh, a sick person doesn't even sound right, but just 'cause you're exposed to someone who that has like a, a contagious illness.

[00:05:48] so definitely feeling that slowing down. Definitely feeling a little bit of like an inward, a turning inward, slowing down, and a bit [00:06:00] more reflective and perceptive rather than just, you know, being in the ovulatory energy of just like going with the flow of everything and like letting yourself be led and maybe sometimes letting yourself be carried away.

[00:06:13] I'm just very like, "here I am, and here I am redirecting my energy inwards and like returning my energy to myself and staying grounded and present." And I actually, I really like this early luteal phase energy. It's a really nice, sweet spot. I find probably not every time, sometimes getting off the ovulation rollercoaster is a little bit more challenging and whip lashy than this.

[00:06:38] But for now I'm really grateful for this. And I also, I also spent the day yesterday in a bit of a forest therapy. Um, shin Rin Yoku, uh, I think is the Japanese term for forest bathing. Had a beautiful guided session, with my partner and some fam and that felt really nice. So I think I'm just, [00:07:00] I'm actually just probably 'cause of a few different factors feeling at a chiller pace today.

[00:07:05] And there's a calm heaviness in my body and there's a bit of a more of a mental slowness in my mind, and I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful for that. So I turn the invitation to you now, uh, and I invite you to check in with where you're at in your own cycle. If you do have a menstrual cycle, you might like to reflect on what day of your cycle you're on, uh, what cycle phase you are in, uh, based on when your last period was, or if you do cycle tracking and you track ovulation, that's fantastic.

[00:07:38] If you don't currently track your whole cycle and you're not sure about how to identify ovulation, I've created a free cycle tracking guide, which you can download. It's 25 pages and it's about holistically tracking your menstrual cycle beyond just the period, and kind of breaking away from relying on algorithms from like cycle tracking apps and stuff [00:08:00] like that.

[00:08:00] Just to get you in the flow of like understanding your own body and the signals and the signs that your body is always sending you and sharing with you. And what that says about your fertility and your hormones and where you are in, in your cycle, because there's a lot more to your cycle than just the period.

[00:08:19] So I invite you to download that if you'd like to get started on holistic cycle tracking.

[00:08:25] And maybe you're not menstruating and maybe you'd just like to reflect on the era of your life that you find yourself in. Maybe you are pregnant or postpartum, breastfeeding. Maybe you're currently on hormonal contraception or medication that is suppressing your menstrual cycle. Maybe your peri or postmenopausal, and you're navigating that really juicy, big transition.

[00:08:51] So yeah, sending love to wherever you're at and inviting you to take a moment to check in with yourself and give yourself grace based on wherever you find [00:09:00] yourself.

[00:09:00] So let's get stuck in. So this is an email I wrote for the Karinda's Corner community, um, by downloading the Cycle tracking guide, by the way, you will automatically join Karinda's Corner community and you can unsubscribe at any time.

[00:09:11] It's all free. So the, the email includes journal entries, screenshots of my journal entries, because I used digital journal apps as early as 2006, I think was my first entry, when I was in year five. Um, so I would've been 10, 11 years old. Um, that's also the same time that I was privileged and lucky enough to get my own personal laptop, um, which is probably why I opted for, uh, digital journaling.

[00:09:42] Definitely had some paper diaries before that. Definitely a lot of boys' names written in there and then violently crossed out, and then probably lots of curse words and insults thrown around in every direction. So I [00:10:00] feel really lucky to have so much of my life on record as, as I've experienced it. Um, 'cause you, I I'm, I'm sure you can appreciate how fuzzy memory can get in hindsight when you're reflecting on things from a long time ago.

[00:10:14] So it's really interesting to have, a in the moment account of these parts of my life. And it was one night, maybe a few months ago where I just could not sleep. I think I was in my ltil phase and ltil phase. I seem to have one night of dead perfect insomnia. It's like this perfect feeling of like tired but wired.

[00:10:39] And I just feel better if I just don't try to fight uh, not being able to sleep, and I just kind of embrace it and I just let myself stay up and write or reflect or sometimes scroll or watch something. Um, it's not always, it's not always productive. It's not [00:11:00] always healthy. And this particular night I was just like reflecting on my own health story because I kept having this like common theme come back up about communicating with like, past versions of myself and reflecting on what I could have said to them, what I could say to them from where I am now.

[00:11:23] Like what I could say to my baby self, my 3-year-old self, my 5-year-old self, my 12-year-old self, and just reflecting on. All these phases of my life and all the versions of Karinda that have existed and just reflecting on all the different things she needed but didn't get at certain times and all the different things she experienced without having the tools to navigate that experience smoothly.

[00:11:50] And I just think about how much I could offer her now. And so I'm often in some kind of dialogue with some kind of past version of myself. It was like 2:00 AM [00:12:00] and all, I was about to fall asleep, and then I just kept thinking of these words and the style of, uh, media that I could like format these words to.

[00:12:09] And I was thinking about all the photos I could draw upon and I was just like, oh my God, I just need to like, start writing. And I hate, like, writing long, long form text on my phone. Um, but I, I just locked in and I was just bloody tapping away and pretty much wrote. You know, a short essay on like my birth up until, you know, my mid twenties, just in terms of my health and the things that I experienced.

[00:12:36] And so I've still got that, that I think I'll do as some kind of like dedicated blog post, for my private community. And so what we have today is just like an abridged version that I wrote in an email, focusing on like a key time in my life rather than looking at all of it. And so I'm gonna be writing, I'm gonna just, just be reading directly from the email that I wrote, but there will be a lot of [00:13:00] segues and there will be a lot of detours into explaining more context and going deeper into some stories.

[00:13:07] And we're just gonna get a little bit messy with it. And we're just, I'm just gonna let myself, be led by my own words and I'll speak to and share whatever feels relevant or good to share. And again, yeah, if you want to get these emails, I send them, uh, roughly weekly or fortnightly. You can just download the free cycle tracking guide and that will pop you on the list.

[00:13:32] So, hey, strap yourself in because this one gets vulnerable. Before I became a naturopath, I was probably a bit like you. I was a young woman confused by my body and symptoms, frustrated at doctors saying everything looks fine, or leaving appointments with unsatisfying answers. I can't tell you how many times I cried immediately after leaving the doctors. Exhausted from trying random supplements, diet [00:14:00] trends, apps and advice.

[00:14:02] Don't just take my word for it. I've got receipts. My 2011 diary entries tell the story. And so we get into our first entry here.

[00:14:12] And this first entry is dated July 23rd, 2011, 14 years ago, far out, nearly 15 years ago. Oh my gosh. And I am kind of just doing this like dot point summary of like how my life is at this moment. And this kind of like introduces some health themes. glandular fever in May. A girl assaulted me in June.

[00:14:40] A stranger. Many ups and downs with blank. My, one of my ex-boyfriend's names major school is good. Currently my mouth is covered in ulcers, sore slash infected throat for over a week now. Spots slash allergic reactions all over my arms and legs, chilblains on my feet. [00:15:00] Hmm. Now I don't know if you remember, uh, I think, but people still write like this, but when I say, Hmm, I'm saying H and then a whole bunch of Ns and then G.

[00:15:10] So it's just like a frustrated sound that I'm typing out to my teenage self. Things are okay with blank at the moment. Um, and then I give a bit more context, which is mostly redacted, uh, about that relationship. Um, I say "ceebs" negativity. And again, if you're not a millennial who was a teenager for the 2010s, "ceebs" was like a shorthand for CBF, which was a shorthand for Can't Be Fucked.

[00:15:39] So I say 'ceebs' negativity. I'm trying to be really healthy at the moment, waiting to get better. Didn't do exams 'cause of my glandular fever. I think that's about it. The blank bits were just the major ones. Relationships, social wise. Aside from glandular fever. [00:16:00] So yeah, now I'm just waiting to get better, trying to be as healthy as possible with all my probiotics and whatnot.

[00:16:05] And I love that. Gosh, I love that 2011 Karinda, like had the resources and knowledge to know that like probiotics could have been supportive for her. I, I wish I'd had that from a younger age, but, so, 'cause in 2011 I'm, um, 15, turning 16. So at this point I'm still just 15 and, uh, I delve into it a bit more.

[00:16:29] So let's read on. I had always struggled with my health. I was born sick. My parents having to manually drain my nose of mucus in the first week of my life. I had reflux and my mom stopped breastfeeding after six weeks and I'll take a, the first of many detours here.

[00:16:49] So yeah, I really, really, really unfortunately, had a family member visit me in the hospital when I was first born in, [00:17:00] like in the first two days of my life. And they were sick with the flu and they still came to visit me. 'cause 1995 was a different time. And your, uh, baby and your immune system isn't properly established.

[00:17:18] Because your gut microbiome isn't fully established. That's like taking place in real time. At the time of birth. Uh, and so I got sick and I didn't have an immune system to fight it. I couldn't, I don't think there were any medications available to me 'cause I was a newborn. And so for the first two weeks of my life, um, I was just so, uh, unwell with the symptoms of a cold or flu, but in a newborn baby that couldn't communicate what she was feeling.

[00:17:55] And didn't understand what was happening. And because I [00:18:00] couldn't take any medications for it, and I, you know, obviously I couldn't blow my own nose. Um, my parents had to use like tubes to. Uh, manually drain the mucus from my nasal nasal passages and like, they would have to like, suck on these tubes to like get the mucus out.

[00:18:18] And I'm really grateful that they had the, the willingness and whatever, whatever else is required to be able to do that. And no doubt that set the stage for some other issues that I experienced. My reflux, I, I was a cla, I was just a, um, I'm sure a lot of mothers listening to this would understand if they've ever had a baby with reflux.

[00:18:41] Um, so I pretty much threw up. I just threw up, all the time. And so my mom stopped breastfeeding because that was the recommendation. Um, to help with my reflux. The recommendation was to go onto a [00:19:00] formula, which would've been dairy based or uh, dairy based or soy based potentially. I think, I think mom said that I did a soy one at least for a little while.

[00:19:13] And you know, I just wanna take a moment to acknowledge how vital breastfeeding is and, you know, if we were in a different context in terms of a time long, long ago, it would be entirely normal to breastfeed your, your child well into infancy. Certainly for at least the first year or couple of years of life, and then a little bit beyond that.

[00:19:42] I don't want it to be an oversight that breastfeeding was like, cut short. And I know women are doing the best they can with the tools they have, but I think there could definitely be a lot more support, a lot, a lot more support in the mainstream healthcare system [00:20:00] to help mothers, um, nurse and breastfeed.

[00:20:05] 'cause obviously there's stuff to troubleshoot and there's really, there can be, you know, really, real, legitimate complications. But, breastfeeding is so, so, so important. And I think the switch from breastfeeding to a formula that early on and, and being sick, you know, after being born. Definitely set up my immune system in a certain way.

[00:20:29] Definitely primed my microbiome in a really specific way, and it's not, it's not nothing. And things that happen at our birth and in the first year of life and also in utero are determinants of our health. It might seem so impossible and unlikely because it's so long ago, but we have the data, we, we have the research that shows that, you know, our microbiome is set and [00:21:00] established and influenced by.

[00:21:02] I forget the first certain, uh, a certain amount of weeks or months of life, um, after birth, but also determined by our mother's, uh, microbiome, her gut microbiome, the microbiome within her uterus. We also know there's a placental microbiome, and then obviously there's the vulvovaginal microbiome, which we pass through, um, as we are being vaginally birthed.

[00:21:25] And all these things play a role in our immune system and the foundation that, that we are born with.

[00:21:30] So that's something that I think is really worthwhile acknowledging and, and really important to me. And I, I want you to be able to reflect on that in terms of your own birth story as well. If, if you know any, any specific facts about your birth story, how you were born and how you were breastfed or not.

[00:21:49] It really sets, sets the stage for some things. And I think it can help, like if you do experience complex, or challenging health, it's [00:22:00] important to remember these factors that were just out of our control. 'cause I think a lot of people still believe like their health is entirely their fault. And there's just so, there's just so many factors beyond we, beyond what we can control.

[00:22:14] So just take a moment to like reflect on your own birth, um, especially if you're navigating health challenges at the moment. It was as early as age three that I started getting annual recurring tonsillitis. And again, probably see my microbiome set up that absolutely makes sense. Enter frequent antibiotic use and hay.

[00:22:35] Presto, my microbiome was.dot fucked. Coming into my primary school years age five to 12, I had sugar, cravings, anxiety, struggled with energy, had heaps of pimples and blackheads for my age and napped every day after school. The diagnosis from those around me. "Karinda's, just lazy." Yeah, I definitely had some [00:23:00] early, early, early blood sugar regulation issues, perhaps even caused by anxiety.

[00:23:06] 'Cause anxiety and stress can definitely change how, how quickly or slowly you process the sugar from the foods you are eating and how efficiently your cells are able to take up that sugar. And also how quickly your blood sugar drops is, is heavily influenced by stress. And I was an incredibly fussy eater, and I am almost positive that that was also determined by some of the, the early experiences in life.

[00:23:34] I did not eat any fruit, and still to this day, I rarely, rarely eat fruit, to the point where I have like quite a strong reaction to it. I've come a long way since I was a child, but, um, that's, that's still a thing. And then since studying naturopathy and learning how certain, fussy eating patterns and food avoidance patterns in childhood are associated with all sorts of [00:24:00] nutritional deficiencies or, I guess symptom patterns.

[00:24:03] And I just think of like all the things that could have been investigated or looked into. But alas, here we are. And, um, yeah, had just had super, super oily skin. Heaps of pimples. I think I had my first pimples from like eight or nine and, and like to the point where like people made fun of me for it in a way where it's like they didn't even know what they were making fun of.

[00:24:27] Like they just did not understand what was happening on my skin. So yeah, mom would take me to, facials, like I was a 9-year-old. Getting facials is just such a wild concept to me and I was getting microdermabrasion on my face and my back and blackhead extractions and, you know, trying so many different products and the proactive and the, oh my god.

[00:24:52] So yeah, skin was a huge area for me. And yeah, just thinking about my energy management, was just really, really shocking. [00:25:00] But as we'll get into like, I, I just share a snapshot of, some diet tracking that I did in my teen years and it's like. I was not eating in a way that is conducive with like, thriving health.

[00:25:15] And no one taught me how to eat properly. So I'm, and I'm also sure that's a thing that a lot of, a lot of you could relate to. So yeah, I really, I took on this narrative about myself, from a young age that I was, I was just lazy. Um, I wasn't sporty. I liked being outdoors and I could definitely go for like bike rides and long walks and stuff, um, and visit new places.

[00:25:41] Um, and, you know, spent a lot of time in the Ovens river, uh, growing up. Uh, we went to Bright every year. That's in Victoria, Australia. For any international listeners or out of out of state listeners. So I love the outdoors, but yeah, I was not a sporty [00:26:00] active person. I would probably almost always choose sitting on the couch, unfortunately, and this is something that I've really had to unwire outta myself. And I finally sold my tv, uh, a month or so ago now. Uh, and that was a long time coming 'cause I'm, I'm very happy to say, I don't know, people are scared to use the word addiction and it's not to be hyperbolic, but like, yeah, I'm very happy to say I was addicted.

[00:26:26] I just got to a point where I needed to be so honest about my habits. And I understand where they came from. It was encouraged to just like, that's what you did. You ate dinner and then you sat on the couch with your family and on weekends you sat on the couch and watched TV for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and just kept going.

[00:26:45] And then you had a laptop and then you could be on the laptop while the TV was playing in the background. And then you got a phone and then you could be on the phone in the background of doing something on your laptop with a TV in the background. And, you know, not, not a way that we were [00:27:00] born to live. Not, not a way that is conducive to what our DNA is like capable of, and like programmed for and how we evolved.

[00:27:13] So yeah, I just had to acknowledge it as an addiction to take it more seriously than I was taking it when I was just like, oh yeah, I like tv, love watching tv. Love my TV shows, love sitting on the couch and procrastinating and not getting stuff done. And then when I started to investigate some of the historical patterns behind that, but then also the emotional patterns underpinning that, then that's when I was like, "oh, okay, yeah, I see how this is serious" and it, and it's okay that it's serious and it also makes sense why this is something that I have clung onto as a comfort.

[00:27:51] It absolutely makes sense when I consider my history and that's why I like going back into the past. Some people are really, really avoidant of reflecting on their [00:28:00] past and reflecting on their life, and I love it. I'm a past dweller, sometimes to a fault for sure. But I do do a lot of work to stay anchored into the present as much as I can. But yeah, I do like to reflect on the past because there's so many lessons there, and that's where all the patterns are, and that's where I get the most, like realizations in terms of self understanding. And I love that I can give that gift to myself.

[00:28:27] Love that. If you're up for it, I mean, oh man. Go through your life, go through every year of your life and just write down like the major events, the major challenges, the major transitions, the, you know, just what you went through, what you were eating. If you can remember that anytime you had to move house or if anything happened with your parents or significant things if in your family or when people died or when people were born around you.

[00:28:54] Changing schools like it. I think it's just so fun to reflect on and, and you can really start to see where certain [00:29:00] emotional patterns begun. And especially if it's emotional patterns that you can acknowledge like aren't actually serving you and you want to do something about them. I think, I think it's very hard to bypass any of your emotion existing emotional patterns without first acknowledging and validating why they're there and where their origin story essentially.

[00:29:22] So yeah. Anyway, side note, highly recommend that.

[00:29:26] Needless to say, I went into puberty in teenage years with not a great foundation for my health. I started the pill at 14 because of said pimples and blackheads. Uh, less than a year after starting my natural menstrual cycle. Fast forward to 2011. I was just shy of 16 on the pill and experiencing the hardest year of my health in my life so far.

[00:29:50] I was hospitalized for tonsillitis and glandular fever, missing a month of school in May. I was assaulted by a stranger in June. Uh, [00:30:00] she grabbed me by the neck of my jumper and tried to push me, push me onto a busy road, while I was waiting for a bus to go home after school. Um, my boyfriend at the time and another friend had to pull her off me.

[00:30:11] And then lucky it was within a couple of minutes that my bus pulled up, and I got on. Uh, and then breaking up with said first long term boyfriend in July. Talk about a rough winter. I was struggling with my immunity, acne, digestion, and nervous system constantly. Feeling guilty that I didn't have the energy to exercise, feeling ashamed that I couldn't make better food choices, beating myself up when my body was only trying to show me how deeply it needed

[00:30:41] love, nourishment, and gentle targeted support. And I'm about to read, uh, an entry from Sunday, 28th of August, 2011. Nothing like a bloody winter Sunday to get me in a emotional mood for journaling. Uh, so [00:31:00] this is a part of a very long entry, and this is just a, a little excerpt, but it does get intense. So just a warning that I get intense in terms of a, um, self shame, um, beating myself up kind of way.

[00:31:13] I got some blood tests the other week. I don't even know what for. But yeah, I think either for my skin or throat or immune system. 'cause ever since the glandular fever, I started getting these sores all over my body. I'm guessing they're just some kind of allergic reaction 'cause my immunity is down. But Dr.

[00:31:30] Harrison just suggested I treat myself for scabies, which I did, but I can't tell if it's better or worse or the same. But yeah, got a doctor's appointment on Saturday, so I'll just get the results then. But anyways, yeah, I'm just so upset. I haven't exercised in ages ever since I've gotten sick. I'm just so unfit and stuff.

[00:31:50] It's such a shame. 'cause just before I got sick, I was really getting back into the exercising routine and now I'm just back to shitty, shitty bang bang. [00:32:00] And I think I have a psychological problem with food. Like I just eat shit when I'm bored, when I'm hungry, when I'm not, straight after a meal. It's crazy.

[00:32:10] I have to stop, but I don't know how. I'm sick of all this inconsistent weight gain, weight loss and shit. I can't stand it. I just wanna be healthy. Mom constantly shoves the healthiness lectures down my throat and I wish I could just stop and change and be healthy, but I can't. I just can't. And it fucking kills me.

[00:32:28] I have no idea why I can't just be healthy. I mean, I do eat a lot more vegetables, but fruit, I just don't eat. I imagine my insides like an abandoned warehouse or factory, all rusty and covered in soot and shit. It sickens me. I hate it. I need to get back into exercising at least. And a shout out to the lingo of 2011.

[00:32:55] And I'm just taking a pause there 'cause I've [00:33:00] read this to myself a lot while editing this email and when I was first like looking over these journal entries a couple of months ago. But reading it out loud hits a little bit different and I just wanna like, I just really wanna give it the space that this version of me is asking for.

[00:33:23] I mean, the poor love, like glandular fever is no joke. And we know there are so many, there are so many health complications associated with glandular fever. Long, like long-term stuff, big picture, long-term stuff. It really takes a toll. And I had tonsillitis at the same time. I was hospitalized for it.

[00:33:43] The experience of the hospital was traumatizing.

[00:33:52] And. I've got this, these itchy dots coming up all on my body that I, [00:34:00] now, looking back in hindsight, I think was absolutely a reaction to wheat and gluten that I was eating. And I'm frustrated that I'm not getting answers from the doctor. I don't even know what they did the blood test for. Like, oh my God, relate.

[00:34:14] And here I am beating myself up because I'm not exercising because three months ago I was hospitalized for a viral infection and a bacterial infection,

[00:34:33] and I missed a month of school and I broke up with my boyfriend the month before and I didn't have a good foundation of health to start with, and I'm a stressed out teenager in year 10. And I'm beating myself up because I didn't have the energy to exercise and I didn't care about the health [00:35:00] benefits of exercise.

[00:35:02] I cared about how my body looked, I cared about, and this is just me riffing now, by the way, I'm not reading the email, but like

[00:35:10] I thought I had to manage how big my body was getting as a 15-year-old, nearly a 16-year-old on hormonal contraception in a developing fucking female body after an intense immune challenge.

[00:35:49] Make it, make it make sense. Make it make sense.

[00:35:55] Oh,

[00:35:58] I, [00:36:00] I love this version of me so much. I love her so much, but she is, oh my God. She's in struggle town. She's in the struggle town big time. Um, and she thinks it's her fault. She says, I have to stop, but I don't know how. I can't stand it. I just wanna change and be healthy, but I can't. I just can't. She really thinks it's her fault.

[00:36:31] And take fault out of it. And she still does not have the tools and support that she needs to understand what her body's doing. And she's not getting any of the right advice at this stage. She thinks exercising more is the answer, and I just, I, I just wish she had the support that she needed. But as I've been reflecting a lot [00:37:00] lately, with different videos on Instagram and what I'm writing in my emails, like we are nudged into this healthcare system that is not designed, is not, not, not designed for complex illness.

[00:37:16] It, emergency medicine and, you know, treatable infections. It, it, it's great. But, um, for complex multi-system illness, especially when there's a nervous system component and a, and a strong nervous system component at that, they're just not cut out. They're just not cut out. Yeah,

[00:37:37] so I, I send a lot of love to that 2011 version of Karinda on the 28th of August. Fuck, yeah.

[00:37:49] All right, I'll keep reading now and then things get more interesting. After all that immune system burden and trauma, my body starts showing me it can't keep going with what I'm giving it. [00:38:00] Rashes on my body, which a GP thought was scabies. Mouth covered in ulcers, chill, Blas all over my feet and hands.

[00:38:07] No doctor explained to me what was causing my symptoms. They didn't even tell me what they were testing for. They couldn't explain my post-meal sugar cravings, my crashes, my fatigue. And as you can see from the August, 2011 entry above, I'm noticing my relationship with food and my body. I am beating myself up.

[00:38:26] I'm angry at my body. I'm frustrated that I just can't change. And for what? I'm still a 15-year-old in a growing, developing female body, and I'm criticizing myself for being overweight. Or not being able to stay "skinny." And then we go to the next screenshot, which is from Thursday, the 17th of May, 2012. So about a year later.

[00:38:52] Uh, I'm 16 at this point, I'm in year 11. And this snapshot is a glimpse into the [00:39:00] extensive food and symptom tracking that I did, for at least a couple of years as a teenager, especially in year 11 and year 12. And this was to try and understand what food was causing. What, and this is where like when you have irritable bowel syndrome, IBS, this is where food tracking can get really frustrating.

[00:39:21] 'cause it can seem like everything and anything is causing a flare up. And equally, it can sometimes seem like nothing specifically is causing a flare up, or that it's inconsistent with the food that you eat. Usually that's because there's just a bigger link with the nervous system and it's about the state of your whole body while you are digesting and your, your whole digestive capacity rather than specifically what you're putting in. Though,

[00:39:50] that said, what you are putting in absolutely makes a huge difference. And, here's an example of what I was putting in, and this is for context. I look, [00:40:00] I go into it, but for context, I thought this was healthy except for the parts that I'll, I'll audibly, uh, react to. 7:00 AM Sultana brand 1112.

[00:40:13] Poop at school. Softy. It's not, not great information. Cor. If a client gave me this,

[00:40:19] I would be like, sorry. Can you please explain what a softy stool is?

[00:40:24] I needed a Bristol stool chart. I didn't have a Bristol stool chart. Uh, 1120 peanut butter in whole grain sandwich, 1 0 3. Whole grain sakata biscuits and a crunchy choc chip muley bar. Four 10 more poop, hard. Couple of plops, I think four 30 a health brownie. My mum used to make brownies out of black beans.

[00:40:49] An apple, some barbecue shapes and some Nutella in brackets. "Ugh, why?" And a couple of milo and then six 30 [00:41:00] chicken and spinach ravioli.

[00:41:05] Oh shit. We, we got, oh, okay. There's so much I wanna say about this. I think I just need to keep reading the email 'cause I, I do address the tracking.

[00:41:15] So I go on to say, and then the tracking begins. I have hundreds of entries like this, tracking my bowel movements and food intake every single day. Not only because I was concerned about my physique, but because I had debilitating digestive issues, which my friends would lovingly remember as my rollercoaster pains because I didn't know how to describe cramps ramps. And not just tracking.

[00:41:39] There's shame sprinkled throughout. And then I quote myself saying, "Ugh, why?" After the Nutella, I had shame for feeling starving after school for eating a carb filled brekky. And a disjointed carby afternoon. Let me tell you that snapshot of what I ate that day, I thought it was healthy [00:42:00] other than the Nutella. But I thought that starting my day with Sultana brand, bread, moving on to peanut butter, whole grain crackers and then more wheat-based food for dinner was healthy. Girl, it's not. If you grew up in a westernized culture, I can almost guarantee your brain was hijacked as to what healthy food actually is.

[00:42:21] All I'll say is it's not bread, bread and more bread, and I don't know, I, I can appreciate that. That might come across as severe, but like when you have done the level of study and clinical training that I have done in nutrition and functional nutrition and how the body works and nutritional biochemistry.

[00:42:44] Like our food system is just totally hijacked by processed foods and, and branded foods. Like remember when foods were just something that came out of the ground, or like someone in your family killed the chicken or a cow and [00:43:00] you ate, you ate from the resources of the earth. And now how food is like trademarked or registered and it falls under the branch of like a, a massive company.

[00:43:14] Like, and you know, there's all these subsidiaries and it's all just like, you know, everything's owned by Mars or West Farmers or, I don't know. I can't, I can't recall any other brands off the top of my head. And food is marketing now and I think it's so important to be aware of that because

[00:43:34] that process shit is barely food. And I'm just gonna be so harsh about this 'cause like I just, I can't keep pussyfooting around people's dietary choices when so many of us are in poor health and are really trying to support ourselves while just consistently making diet choices that actually aren't healthful or helpful to our body's [00:44:00] physiology.

[00:44:00] Yeah, our bodies didn't evolve to digest this stuff. Sultana brand processed peanut butter, processed whole grain sandwich, bread processed whole grain sakata biscuits, processed crunchy chocolate chip muesli bar processed. Health brownie, a cake made at home great. And Apple best choice of the day. Some barbecue shapes, processed Nutella, processed a cup of Milo, processed chicken and spinach

[00:44:24] ravioli probably processed, but not the worst thing. But I've got wheat. Wheat, more wheat. I've got sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar in the breads, in the cereal, in the muesli bar, in the shapes, in the Nutella, in the cup of Milo. I, I, and I just want people to know that like, if this is anything, what your diet looks like, like your body isn't gonna be functioning optimally.

[00:44:49] And it is just as simple as that. And, you know, I had the kind of poor foundation of health where my body, my body didn't have enough resources to be able [00:45:00] to deal with this input, in my younger years. And a lot of people could just eat this stuff when they were younger and their body didn't tell them that it was a problem.

[00:45:08] Their body had the resources and the, the reserves to deal with it. And adapt, and process it. But I see a lot of people getting to 20 25, 30 and being like, oh, you know, maybe their diet is the same as when they were as, when they were a teenager. And they real, their body is finally starting to talk, and symptoms are finally starting to show themselves or symptoms are getting worse.

[00:45:34] And I, I just, I can't make that any more clear, like a diet like that is

[00:45:40] barely food. Barely food. And I also wanna acknowledge that, you know, I'm eating at seven and then I'm eating again at 11 and then again at one 30, and then again at four 30, and then again at six 30. So [00:46:00] also if you, this is just a tidbit, if you experience digestive issues, that is too frequent. Your body's not getting a sufficient break.

[00:46:08] Um, if you have histamine issues, and especially if your gut is very reactive, that is putting too much food in without giving your digestive system enough time to process what you've already put in. And so, you can be more prone to histamine tolerance. Um, 'cause your body needs time to clear out the histamine from the food that we eat.

[00:46:30] And from the histamine that's like produced within our gut. I'm also not eating in any kind of like circadian optimized way. If I really did stop eating at six 30 at that night, that's, that's good because you want at least three hours from your last meal until your bedtime.

[00:46:44] So that's okay. But you know, irregular bowel movements, bloating. Heaps of gas throughout the day. Like it makes sense in context of what I'm eating. I, I'm also eating processed, like not [00:47:00] properly cooked foods, no soup, stews, stir fries. Like I had all those things. Sometimes I'm just using this day as an example, but like, and then at the end of the day I'm mixing like raw fruit with like a cooked brownie thing and then like wheat based processed foods and then like dairy based, processed foods, Nutella, and then like cup of mar like, it's chaos.

[00:47:23] And sometimes it can actually be so revealing, like when you track your diet in this way, it can be revealing and it can actually be a relief. Especially when my clients have me look at their food and diet diaries and there's never any judgment. And if anything I just get excited like, oh my God, dude, there's, there's, oh, there's so many things I see here that can be improved.

[00:47:49] if you wanna support your sym symptoms, if you wanna reduce your symptoms and get closer to a state of optimal health, there's a lot we can do. You don't have to change anything if you don't want to, [00:48:00] but if you've got concerns with your health and you're wondering what you can do, well guess what?

[00:48:05] I've just found five things in your daily intake of food that could be optimized to reduce symptoms and improve your health overall and protect yourself in the long run. It's just a shame. It's just a shame that we are not taught, and I mean, probably our parents are also a little bit disconnected from real food.

[00:48:24] Again, depending on the culture that you grew up in, um, it's gonna be so different for everyone. So I'm making a lot of generalizations here based on my own experience. But yeah, I feel like the generation before ours, was already pretty disconnected from food. 'cause that's like, what is it? Like maybe the sixties, sixties, seventies where like processed food really started to like, rise up.

[00:48:46] Uh, and then, I mean, yeah, for our generation, I mean, forget about it, everyone's people's lung lunch boxes were fruit rollups, which were pretty much just sugar and fucking, um, [00:49:00] Go-Gurt, like chocolate chip, chocolate based yogurts and puddings and chips with probably with like heaps of vegetable oils and just crap.

[00:49:14] And bread, bread, bread, white bread, ripe bread. Take all the good stuff outta the bread, make it the high glycemic index so the kids are fucking bouncing off the walls. Like. We have so much work to do when it comes to healing our relationship, our collective relationship with food. And yeah, I'll be the first to put my hand up and say my relationship with food and using food as medicine and returning food to its origins of what food originally was.

[00:49:45] I, I'm on that journey. I'm on that journey. I personally have a long way to go, but I'm here for it.

[00:49:53] Moving on. And then, okay, this last journal screenshot comes, this is, uh, the 4th of August, [00:50:00] 20 12, 13 years ago, comes with a little photo of me in, um, the top half of me in a bra, uh, in the bathroom mirror. And the entry is titled Weight Loss Goals. And I say the attached photo is my body on the 1st of August, 2012 at 9:16 PM 20 seconds.

[00:50:25] I counted the full time nine 16:20 PM. In 11 more weeks after using the amazing absolution, Sadie Nardini and other vinyasa yoga and limiting, reducing and bettering my food intake, hopefully it will be a different picture, whether it's just a couple of kilos or just looking more toned or more visual, abdominal muscle.

[00:50:48] Any positive change would be great to see. I'd be so happy, very excited. Oh, I'm just, I'm getting flashbacks to all the, like, [00:51:00] motivational ups and downs, uh, and just being motivated for the wrong reasons. Again, I, it's 2012, I'm 16 years old. I'm in a developing female body. Still may have just come off hormonal contraception actually.

[00:51:15] So even more of a reason why I should be bloody easy on myself, because that's a, that's a whole hormonal journey. Like your ovaries coming back online for the first time after being suppressed for several years, like God. And in that photo, I'm noticing, I'm wearing like this, this was definitely my, my spiritual era as well, which probably started like in 2010, like my anti-religion spiritualism era where I decided to like walk my own path and do my own research and decide things for myself.

[00:51:56] And yeah, I'm wearing this necklace that like, [00:52:00] uh, I think had the Buddha on it and. Yeah, it was this like ly like, I don't know what medal it was made out of. God, I couldn't even tell you where I got it from, but I wore it all the time. And I like saw that as my religion and I just, I think about how I was talking and relating to myself and reflecting on my body and I'm just like, that's not Buddhist.

[00:52:31] That's not Buddhist babe. But she was trying so hard and she had the best, best, best intentions. She had the best intentions. but yeah, she just missed the mark.

[00:52:41] So I go through all of that in 2011 and then by 2012 I'm like, okay, and now I'm gonna fix my body. And that's not the place you wanna be coming from on a healing journey. So I say, and then in 2012, I'm still focused on losing weight and shaping up my body. Did I do anything to deal with the load on [00:53:00] my nervous system?

[00:53:01] Nope. Did I give my immune system the nourishing support it needed after a huge viral load? Nope. Did anyone test me for nutritional deficiencies? Ask about what slash how I was eating and how I was looking after myself. Nope. Did anyone question what role the pill was playing in my health, my symptoms, and my microbiome?

[00:53:23] Definitely not. And did I get my dream bod from a place of shame force hating on my body and pushing myself? Fuck no. So there's a bunch of stuff that didn't work. Tracking myself with shame, focusing on weight loss as my main goal, trying to take on others' motivation for health, like my mom's as my own?

[00:53:46] Not at all focusing on where these issues actually started. Not acknowledging my upbringing, my wiring, and my nervous system as crucial parts of my wellbeing, and in fact, the major keys of what would help me [00:54:00] make positive change. Now, I am a very health conscious and health informed naturopath. How did things change?

[00:54:11] It started with a gut feeling to come off the pill when I was 16, later, I think it was at the start of 2012. Then it grew into a heavy disappointment with the answers from my GP about my health. So my dad took me to a naturopath for the first time. It was the first time that a health professional ever actually heard me and then made my symptoms make sense in the context of my life, my diet, my energy, and my constitution.

[00:54:38] I shook that man's hand and nearly cried in the Mill Park chemist when I was 16. The fact that this is precisely the first thing that new patients reflect back to me as the thing that I offer them, feeling heard and validating their symptoms, is a massive pinch me moment. And it is. And that is something [00:55:00] that all of my clients have in common within the first or second appointment.

[00:55:05] They're like, whoa, no other health professional or doctor has ever gone into as much depth as you do, and like, I actually feel like for the first time I feel heard. And I actually, it wasn't until I was writing this email that I put two and two together and I was like, oh shit. I wonder if that's something that I naturally offer people.

[00:55:27] Because this was such an important piece for me in my own healing journey when I was still just a teenager and on some subconscious level, I realized how important that being received in that way was being seen and validated in that day, in that way was. And so I offer that to other people and look, I don't know why it's happening or how it's happening, but it is, I, it, it gets reflected to me over and over again, across so many different types of women, from so many different walks of life.[00:56:00]

[00:56:00] And I'm, I'm so grateful that I, that I get to offer that to people. That first appointment when I first saw a naturopath, gave me the spark and insight that I needed to understand how my life creates my health. And I'll say that little part again. My life creates my health. It wasn't my body working against me.

[00:56:23] It was my body trying to show me what wasn't working and what needed to change. Of course, the long-term answers aren't as short and sweet as that. I've been on a 15 year journey, and you could say longer than 15 years, 'cause my health issues started earlier than 15 years ago. But I've been on at least a 15 year journey of learning about my health on a personal level, exploring spiritual studies, reading about natural remedies, teaching myself the fertility awareness method, tracking my menstrual cycles for 13 years, eventually [00:57:00] getting my bachelor's degree in health science, graduating as a naturopath, and running my own business where I helped women who are exactly where I was.

[00:57:06] It wasn't until I truly learned my cycle and I mean really, really learned it, that things started to change for real. In ways that were sustainable and consistent. I was able to notice the changes in my body. I was able to recognize her patterns and observe how, and observe how she responded to everything.

[00:57:28] Food, stress, sleep environment, exercise, supplements, all of it. I remember the relief when someone understood my symptoms and assured me we could get to the bottom of it. I remember the first time I could confirm ovulation by tracking a couple of my simple biomarkers, and oh my God, the first time my period arrived without pain.

[00:57:49] The first time I felt emotionally stable in my premenstrual week. Holy moly. It felt like liberation, empowerment, freedom. And [00:58:00] here's the thing about that freedom. It wasn't the result of a perfect supplement stack or a miracle protocol. It wasn't even the result of outsourcing my health practitioners constantly.

[00:58:11] It was the result of understanding what my body was actually doing and finally having the tools and support to work with her instead of against her. And what an absolute bloody treat that my life's work to date is centered around women like you who are probably feeling the exactly how I did about their bodies, helping them understand what's going on, address the root of it in a way that's tailored to them, and offer them the tools to sustain their own health on their terms for the rest of their lives.

[00:58:45] When you asked me to be your naturopath on your health team, now, you know, I don't just talk the talk. I didn't just study naturopathy from a place of perfect health and great self-esteem. I've been there, I've been in the shit [00:59:00] of my health, I've done the hard yards, and now I walk the walk. Yeah, because I know what it's like to be in that spiral of pain, struggle, confusion, frustration about your body, thinking that it's broken.

[00:59:13] And I know that none of those feelings actually helped anything. And certainly none of the things that I tried in a manic fashion from any of those feelings or from the belief that something is wrong with me, anything that I tried from that belief was not helpful. 'cause it's not the truth and it's not the energy of healing.

[00:59:35] Having lived it. I know what actually does help.

[00:59:37] If you've listened this far, genuinely, thank you. This is, as you can probably guess, and as I've told you, a huge share for me, coming from a deeply vulnerable and challenging part of my life. I am blessed to have been able to alchemize my pain into power. And I would genuinely love to [01:00:00] help you with your own hormone health and healing.

[01:00:02] And I'll leave it there as far as the email goes. And I really, I, I mostly, I mostly just wanna leave it at that, at that share. But I, I have to, I have to have, to have to tell you that, the main way that I work with women, my, my program harmonized hormones

[01:00:22] is a result of having experienced all those gaps in the medical system that I found myself in. Harmonized hormones is a space, a journey, a supportive experience where the depth has been built into it, the space has been built into it. There is no rush. There's plenty of time for me to explain things.

[01:00:44] We do thorough investigations on your body so we know what's actually going on. I help you understand your symptoms. I help you decode the language of your body, because your body is always communicating to you. It's always got something to say to you. And no [01:01:00] one taught me how to interpret my symptoms.

[01:01:03] Not, not, at least not for my upbringing anyway.

[01:01:06] I had to learn a lot for myself and I had to experiment a lot with myself. And our bodies have so much to teach us, and I just wish I knew earlier that I could see my body as a teacher. I didn't even really know that was an option. and I'm so grateful to have that knowledge now, and I'm even more grateful to be able to share that knowledge with the women that I work with.

[01:01:31] So I'm really, really proud of harmonized hormones, not just from a business perspective, not just from a, I'm a naturopath perspective, but from, from a perspective of my past self, from a perspective of my teenage self, my child self. Those girls needed work like this. And I'm creating, I have created. What I [01:02:00] needed back then and what I know, a lot of women from all walks of life at all ages still need today.

[01:02:08] And this is why I'm here offering the work that I do and doing the stuff that I do.

[01:02:14] At the time of recording harmonized hormones is at the lowest price that it will ever be. It's getting a massive upgrade and the price is going up with it.

[01:02:23] But you can still experience a three or six month journey at their original prices until the 30th of April. So if you book in your first appointment anytime before the 30th of April, you will get the whole journey at the current lower price.

[01:02:39] Harmonized hormones is three months of my continued dedicated support to you and your healing journey. I prescribe and, and whip up custom formulas for you. It includes functional hormone testing and my interpretation of any and all test results that you have. There's WhatsApp support between sessions. [01:03:00] Everything is tailored to you, including treatment plans and all the tools that I provide for you.

[01:03:05] We have six sessions over three months, or 12 sessions over six months,

[01:03:09] and it is the space where. Most of my clients get the biggest results because the biggest change doesn't come from one appointment with one treatment plan and one massive overhaul. It usually comes from small, sustainable, incremental change over time, and it comes from having a first appointment, me giving you a couple of recommendations to start off with.

[01:03:35] You getting some time to play around with those. You get to ask me questions in between. Message me on WhatsApp, and then we have another appointment and we get to see how your body responded, and we get to build upon that. And if you listen to my last episode where I take you behind the scenes of harmonized hormones, that is really juicy.

[01:03:54] If you want to get a look at like how the consults actually work and all the kinds of questions [01:04:00] that I ask. And I also walked, walked you through my, um, Wholistix body-wise assessment that I've developed, which is pretty much my specific style of naturopathic consultation and all the things that I will explore across the three or six months with you in order to get to the root of what is causing your symptoms to get to the root of whatever imbalance you are experiencing in your body.

[01:04:24] And to give you the tools to understand your own body in the long run and be able to decode your own symptoms. Because my end goal is not that you rely on me for the rest of your life, the end goal is that you are able to sustain health for yourself. You are able to read your body's cues and make changes that are applicable to what your body is asking for in real time.

[01:04:46] That is the end goal and the overall mission of harmonized hormones and Karinda Wholistix in general is to help more women understand the amazing power that their cyclical bodies [01:05:00] hold,

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[01:06:11] as you. May it be of benefit.

[01:06:15] Until then, thank you for listening. Really, really, really thank you for listening, and I'll see you in the next episode. Take care.